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Old 11-30-2008, 05:07 AM   #1
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on a word, or two ...

I am pretty new to this place, but already it has made a lasting impression on me.
Over time, I got to see quite some net-locations that are in a way associated with the term of „goth“; but none matched this „community“.

In general I tend to read a lot, and normally get bored before my 5th posting. You ppl are not at all boring. This place has many qualities one would expect from a psychological experiment; making my stay an incredibly educative time.

I like this place for the vigorous, educated and fierce discussions it produces.

But there is a tinsy point that “tickles” a bit.
This place seems to have a pest-problem that has slightly gone overboard.

Threads like…
“Which GNET member would you Gang Raep?”
“The thread for people who have loving parents...”
“Ha, Ha, Ha... I just made someone cry!”

are somewhat entertaining, but not really. The educative value about them seems also seriously limited.

I am aware that for many ppl here “Helpie”, with his alternate nicks, and the other one, the cool pirate-dude with the eye-patch are the only reason to come. They are a show. One with his obvious social and sexual dysfunction, the other with something what appears to be serious religious issues on top.
It´s just that inexperienced ppl allow such shit-mongers to draw them into their game, that does not go all well with me.

“Helpie” and “Cool guy with eye-patch” are a superb example of what two organized guys that act like pieces of shit can do to a whole place/group of ppl that are not organized. – Well documented stuff, reenacted here in superb detail.

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“Helpie” – Remember the last time I felt tempted to tell you off? – You answered by practically repeating your babble from earlier, except the really funny part about “Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong.”.
Why?
You forgot to tell me that you are Donald Trump and that you are just creating/maintainig several identities in an internet-community, just to get a break from the bore of guiding your financial empire, doing all the girls your tongue could cope with and blowing whopping amounts of money.
You just re-phrased your bullshit from earlier.
Why so broken? – Why didn´t you troll me since?

What makes you find Shade such a tempting target? – Sure he is a cute guy, attractive to boys and girls - and you are not, he has a life ahead of him – you just face perspectives of mounting bitterness, loniness and despair.
Gods must this cute, little guy be painful for you.


Do you really think ppl see you as what you want them to see you as?
Please tell me you do!

You are a tiny willie that dedicates large amounts of time towards getting attention out of being as shitty as he can. Well, you certainly scored on this one, dude.
You make yourself a show with your disorders – and don´t even catch the joke. – Oh crap, you are such a sad creature.
You probably count each hit on one of your trolling posts/threads as “a tiny victory”, right?

What about reflection, you by-the-books example of social disfigurement? Would you trust yourself to reflect – say – a tennisball fired against your “head”? – I am not that sure, think hard. Try to conveince me.
When thinking, try asking yourself: “What was it that drove me over the edge?”
Or what about: “Would I want to go to bed with a person of my social incompetence/smell?”


But why have you become such a cuddly, grumpy dumpling? What has made you switch from the “default” (craving for positive attention) to the “disturbed” mode? – Was it that you did not manage to find ppl that were willing to fuck with you, so you retreated to internet-porn and trolling?
Wanna hear a secret you retarded piece of cattle? – The reason why you don´t get a lay is that your personallity stinks so much that not even a dead-drunk girl would give you the merest chance of letting your degraded genes into the pool of the human genome. – Without r##pe-fantasies any j#rk feels somewhat unreal/incredible? Ain´t?

That´s because deep in youself you know that no person in her (right) mind would do “it” with you willingly.
And you – hero – metaphorically print this on your t-shirt and tell it to all people in the www? OK. – You´ll know what you do. Y´ll have your good reasons.
Gods – I´d kill myself.


´Realize that the pain/anger you are feeling when hearing the term of “love” is the pain of being evolutionally obsolete? – Your genome is too decremental to score. And that´s what causes this agony of pain.
It is not the fault of others “failing to understand you”, it is your incapability of coping with the feedback you created. You cracked like a cheap watch under pressure and went to “antisocial”, and it´s of course the others that are to blame.

Have you never been loved? Have ppl aways casted you off because of your shitty smelling character? – Have you decided to “make them pay”?
For what? – For you being a social mutant of the “anti” – kind?
And yes, it would have all been different/better if y´d have had a decent father-figure in your life.

The fact that you focus so much energy and effort on harassing the weakest person you can find on the wide www, shows how desperate for attention/sucess you are. Don´t you think?
Get hit by a car! That´ll give you some attention, positive attention.
And it is the positive attention, that feels better, right?
Watta loser you must be, when you have given up the idea of hoping/working for positive attention.
The big type you use, underlines this mental deformity of yours with each posting in an ironic way, ´shame you do not get the joke. – ´Tis hillarious. In a way.

But hey, do you think people understand your big type as somewhat “hard” or “tough”? As being especially mean? – You do know that any consumption of psycho-active substances in the youth affects the character-development and emotional “setup” of a person? – With some self-reflection you may.

But also you may very well be considered as being a sad example.
Maybe you should just try to wither away quietly with an addicition or two.



I invite you,potent guy, including all your spin-off personality fragments (especially your girly character/nick), to finally troll me as well.
Come on, Wee-wee.
Tell me I´m a f##king arrogant nazi, tell me I´m an errant psychologist, remind me on a misplaced comma. But do something.
Don´t act so broken. “Success is the sole earthly judge of right and wrong”, remember?

I offer you an outspoken chance to score attention. – This whole thread is dedicated to you, your split personalities and all your trusted sidekicks in this ol´game of “show your disorder”, to show your disorder. Think about it as “trolling”, just make your point – like before.
C´m on, surround me with your alter-egoes; flame me from all sides – split your wasted personality some more.Go on, you chose the path – now follow it.

Or, change s th.
You know, y´ll sure laugh, but I like your type in general. Not only for giving me the chance for being nasty, but because I tend to respect fairly intelligent people that have de-railed because of feeling misunderstood and deserted. This kind isn´t such a bore a the average cattle.
So, after being somewhat less friendly up to now – I´ll also offer you the chance for personal exchange, in case you feel like re-considering your positions.
I made a special e-mail for you and your side-kick. Any shit will be done with here in the open, but – on my word – approach me in a decent way and I will treat you accordingly.
G6437324 at googlemail dot com
Wanna know why I offer you this chance? – As I have said earlier, I deem some of your sane contributions as being fairly/highly valuabe, if y´d only spare the ppl your attitude – y´d get better feeling results. As evident with some of your spin-offs.
Think good about your next step, “Donald Trump”.



@Cool_piraty_dude_with_eyepatch
It may not be all appropriate to be as nasty on you, because your quota of useful/productive contributions is much higher that the one “Helpie” scores with all his alternative nicks. But I can not help but understanding your signature as some sort of request for attention. So, here you are.

Right, let´s get back onto track. – Did you notice the difference in the use of the term of “we” between your posts and “Helpies”? – People may, and they may think.
The same way he advertises his sexual abnormity, your mentioning of “almighty … architect of the universe” seems to me indicative for some serious issues.
Allow me one simple question. How – in heaven on earth – have you learnt about this super-being? Has it come to take you at night for some rectal examination and has the experience enlightened you? Or has your daddy told you it is so? Does the man in the impressive building that “blahs” about his favourite fiction – hold the truth of the universe for you?

Individual social deficits do not get better by believing in super-heroes, sorry to say.

Ok. Want some more attention? – Tell me about it.


And this goes for both of you:

You both could contribute to/benefit from this place quite a lot, if y´d dump the attitude of self-pittyful resignation and start being merely as shitty as everyone else. Everyone here has got issues, you are not the only guys with reasons to be nasty – but everyone else seems to have kept a much better grip on sanity than you.

(Thanks for giving me the chance to do this.)
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Old 11-30-2008, 05:43 AM   #2
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Mmm... It reminds me of this

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Actually, out of the three, it's only Eclipsing that I don't like, because he just waters down anything Helpmann says and parrots it.
Honestly, Helpmann is the only one I should ignore.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:13 AM   #3
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And boy, oh boy, is this going to do the job. Let them be what they are, they deserve it.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:39 AM   #4
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But... ,seriously, If I didn't play along , all these wouldn't happen.


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..... Shade such a tempting target? – Sure he is a cute guy, attractive to boys and girls...
Gee... Thanks !! You made me blushed.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:51 AM   #5
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choose a different game, man.
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Old 11-30-2008, 06:59 AM   #6
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@$haDe

You are what you are, you pay your price.
Take the best lessons from this, and never let bitterness do to you, what you have seen here on others.
You are young and I doubt you have ever come across ppl like the one in question, so I´d say you couldn´t have known what happens when you go on the game of a person that is speciallized in www-harassment. Now you know.


@MollyMac

To me this is going to do the job. I am still in the process of learning English, and you would not imagine how hard it is to find volunteers that ask for taking serious shit. A balanced rhetoric needs sparring, and my English has awfully degraded because of years of lack of practice.
And "Helpie" is quite a specimen. He ain´t dumb, and he craves for attention.

And seriously, I am not sure if they really deserve what they get/got. Not really.
That´s why I took the step of createing an e-mail just for the cause of giving them a chance for private exchange. ´Tis an offer they can deal with, according to what they think of as "cool". - As I´ve said, I generally respect guys with brains.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:01 AM   #7
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Jesus Christ!! The rule of thumb is to not feed the trolls, Well you just gave them a Fucking all-you-can-eat Buffet.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:02 AM   #8
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Giving in to their need for attention is liek negotiating with terrorists, only not as interesting.

Anyone not willing to help you with working on your English is an ass.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:14 AM   #9
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@Sanguine Mind

I just hope they take the invitation.


@MollyMac

Lovely example you drew up. I´d be the one to question the motives of so called terrorists.

You wrote:
"Anyone not willing to help you with working on your English is an ass."
Not quite. I´d re-phrase this to: "Anyone who doesn´t have any interesting thing about his personality is a terrible bore to me. Some score with mastery of the language they were raised with, some with the uniqueness of the character."

I do not respect ppl for breathing or for being able to remember their own name.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:22 AM   #10
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What use is language mastery if it is hollow and for no real use save bullshit self-gratification and a brief respite from your sad life?

It is an honest example, though. The whole of negotiation with terrorists is to acquiesce to some degree. Even talking with them gives them what they want even if you do not cave in to their demands. Just shoot the hostage and be done with it. Or let them shoot the hostage, either way, really. The cost of tea in China will remain unaffected.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:45 AM   #11
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Are you just desperate for friends utho? You made a special email address just for them to contact you? Christ. I find them amusing and they usually have a bloody good point but I certainly wouldnt be begging them to talk to me and going to those lengths. But then I have friends so its hard to understand such desperation.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:51 AM   #12
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Threads like…
“Which GNET member would you Gang Raep?”
“The thread for people who have loving parents...”
“Ha, Ha, Ha... I just made someone cry!”
I made the first thread listed there.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:40 AM   #13
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@MollyMac

What use is a head when employed to crack nuts?

Oh and the term of terrorists is a cheap and spent whore. The "resistance" were terrorists to the nazis - but are labeled today as "freedom-fighters".

The label of "Terrorist" simply indicates the attitude of (your) thought leaders/societies towards the militant action of a certain group/cause.
Ever heard of the term/meaning of "dsyphemism"?

You just gave a brilliant example of how dysphemisms work. Label someone as a terrorist - and lots of ppl will start suggesting what you did, without even questioning the motives that drove people to do shit.
Political dysphemisms like this work well on a large quota of society.

"The difference between terrorists and freedom-fighters is the same as between gods and demons."


@Alarica

I am not really desperate for friends. I am far too arrogant, sorry.
It is really hard to find stuff to respect ppl for, I can tell you.


Actually - as I said earlier - I like characters that are individual.
"Helpie" would not be the first shit-head I found interesting conversation. Mediocrities are such bores.

The way this guy freaked out is normally associated with "I´m so clever - and they all don´t understand me". I like this very type of disorder, ppl that react like this are usually somewhat special/interesting. I always liked discussions with intelligent psychos.

But for the matter of friends. Anyone considering this term in the context with internet-communities suggests something as well. To me this term applies to the real world of ppl I deal with, not to www mirages. I see a huge diffenence between talking openly with someone and using the term of "friend", do you?


And now for you, Cuddly grumpy dumpling.

Thanks for coming to the show, and thanx for selecting this guise.

Think about the things I said. - Think good.
I will be back on Monday, so you have got time to think. You have got quite some options. Surround me with all your clones, create as many as you can handle - and do me, raise your troops to defend the image you worked so intensly for. But please do not chicken out like last time I told you off. That was so undignifying.

Hey, you could try to make all your clones look like "real" people, bring them in here - and claim in a tousand individual voices that you are the army of "Helpie", "because he is such a cool stud".
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You're right. Terrorists tend to stand for something. My bad.
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Old 11-30-2008, 09:55 AM   #15
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"Intelligent psycho"?

Dude, you're taking these guys WAY too seriously.
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You're right, too. We should go to the bar and let these chimpys sort their shit. I'll buy the first round.
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If I were Sir. Helpmann (I'm not) and/or a troll (also negative,) I would print out this thread on parchment and hang it up on my wall.
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You're right, too. We should go to the bar and let these chimpys sort their shit. I'll buy the first round.

Beer and chaser both?

So many people kick up when you ask for 2 drinks, even if you just bought 2 rounds in a row because they drink so slow you couldn't be assed to wait, but felt rude not asking if they want another.

I just like to be upfront about my feelings on these people, BEFORE forming drinking alliances.
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Beer and chaser, then. I figure by the end of the night we'd break even or else be too pissed to care.
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Old 11-30-2008, 02:51 PM   #20
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Exclamation Victory Shall Come To The Worthy

THIS thread means that the circle is now complete. And the question at this time is: what are the aims of this Utho and his erroneous assumptions?

Utho may be convinced that this futile thread will secure for himself, and in his blind arrogance all of Gnet, the safeguarding of the dignity of a handful of mere contemptible weaklings. I do not doubt for a single moment that I already am victorious.

Destiny will decide who is right.

One thing only is certain. In the course of world history, there have never been two victors, but very often only losers. This seems to me to have been the case in the last meltdown. This is how change happens, though. It is a relay race, and we're very conscious of that, that our job really is to do our part of the race, and then we pass it on, and then someone picks it up, and it keeps going. And that is how it is. And we can do this, as a forum, with the consciousness that we may not get it, you know, today, but there's always a tomorrow.

Should anyone say to me: 'These are mere fantastic dreams, mere visions,' I can only reply that when I set out on my course in Dec 2007 as an unknown, nameless poster I built my hopes of the future upon a most vivid imagination. Yet all has come true.

Utho's tirade of poorly devised half-baked theories does not surprise me in the least. For what does this man actually care for the lives of others? To him, the current climate merely gives him the opportunity to make his timid voice finally felt in a community that doesn't even notice him. By appealing to humanitarian claptrap, he believes he can forge for himself a personality by jumping on the band wagon. Utho's vile lukewarm agitation is a mere ploy to garner respect from people he will never meet nor sleep with.

My greatness does not stem from where I stand, but in what direction I am moving. We must sail sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it - but sail we must and not drift, nor lie at anchor. Nowadays I do not speak very often. In the first place I have little time for speaking, and in the second place I believe that the current predicament of the forum speaks for itself. Winning may not be everything, but losing has little to recommend it.

Do not write on your banners the word 'Victory': today that word shall be uttered for the last time. Strike through the word 'Victory' and write once more in its place the word which suits us better - the word 'Fight'.'
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:00 PM   #21
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tl;dr
From what I read; it's not Helpmann who you should worry anyway; he's easy.
It's the loveydovey pussies that take themselves too seriously who are the cancer of this site.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:01 PM   #22
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What's with the long-ass flames?

One-liners man, they are the future.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:01 PM   #23
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What's with the long-ass flames?

One-liners man, they are the future.

It would take hours to read what these people can easily say in a sentence.
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Old 11-30-2008, 03:13 PM   #25
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phew! just finished reading all that.

Utho you really are quite pissed off. What did Sir. Helpmann do?

Sir Helpmann you sound like a pompous ass (but look cute) lol.
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