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10-09-2006, 07:18 AM
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All Pets Go to Heaven (news)
Pets Gaining Recognition in Places of Worship
Maryann Mott
for National Geographic News
October 6, 2006
At St. Francis Episcopal Church in Stamford, Connecticut, the pews are filled with some unlikely worshipers.
Dogs sit by their owners' sides and cats peer out from carriers during a monthly pet-friendly service.
Barks and purrs—or "prayer noises," as the church calls them—can be heard during the afternoon celebration of Eucharist, in which people receive communion and pets a special blessing.
The half-hour service focuses on the special relationships people have with their animals, says Rev. Mark Lingle.
"At our church there are a number of people who are single or who have lost a loved one, and their pet is one of their primary relationships," he said.
(See photos and get more information about domestic cats and dogs.)
The church's special service is part of a growing movement among places of worship, some of which not only recognize the human-animal bond but offer pet owners support and services almost unheard of a decade ago.
In addition to special blessings or regular church services, these places hold private pet memorials or burials and offer grief counseling to comfort members whose pets have died.
Dealing With Loss
Rabbi Neil Comess-Daniels of Beth Shir Sholom, a progressive reform Jewish synagogue in Santa Monica, California, says that when a pet dies, owners suffer the same grief as they would over the loss of a human.
For years he's made condolence calls or visits with members of his congregation whose pets have died. And after each service he says a prayer for members mourning the loss of an animal or human.
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10-09-2006, 07:26 AM
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That's really cool, actually. A little weird, but cool.
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10-09-2006, 03:00 PM
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Cool! A bit weird, but definitely awesome for the devoted pet people.
I wonder if this minister and rabbi do funerals for the animals too? People do them for their own family, but that would be an interesting service too! I saw a dog marriage ceremony on TV once, but those people were a bit...weird.
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10-09-2006, 08:55 PM
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This is a wonderful thing.
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10-10-2006, 12:00 AM
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do yo have a link for this? I have a few friend I would like to share it with.
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10-11-2006, 09:47 AM
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10-26-2006, 08:40 PM
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Wow....thats really cool actually. I used to think that pets went to "pet heaven" when I was really little.
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10-29-2006, 02:59 PM
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This made me laugh so hard I choked. Please don't get me wrong. Just the way it was writen...there are so many people dieing terrible deaths all over the world and other people spend time worrying about those that have lost a PET?
And also, instead of integrating this into a church service, why not make self-help psychologic thearapy groups or something of the sort? I thought the church was to keep up tradition and to hold the connection to the sacred and not to worry about those that have pets.
Please forgive me if I have offended anyone....or anyone's pet.
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10-29-2006, 05:05 PM
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That is very interesting. I understand that it is terribly difficult to lose a beloved pet and truly do not mean to put aside that sort of grief.
However in my opinion this does not at all match the depth of sorrow caused by the loss of a loved one.
Also, I do not believe that animal sounds should be touted as spiritual elements of worship. If it were me, I would find the noise distracting. Thankfully this "pet service" only occurs once a month in the aforementioned church.
I love animals, but personally find the idea somewhat strange. To each his own...
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10-29-2006, 05:54 PM
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Wow, I actually think this is really neat. I love it!!!! If I went to church, I would get my church to do that.
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12-21-2006, 01:37 PM
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It's great that there are people out there who actualy give a rat's ass about companion animals (and the loss there of)
but I'd bet you anything that most of them go home to a sunday brunch of the dead ANIMALS
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12-21-2006, 01:40 PM
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Hah...
Hypocrites annoy me.
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12-21-2006, 01:42 PM
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I don't see any hipocrisy.
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12-21-2006, 02:02 PM
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If you say you love animals
but you still eat them
you are a hipocrite
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12-21-2006, 02:02 PM
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So I'm a hypocrite because I have a pet?
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People who say they don’t care what people think are usually desperate to have people think they don’t care what people think.
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12-21-2006, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by VamPirate
If you say you love animals
but you still eat them
you are a hipocrite
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I do love animals.
They're tasty.
Not a hypocrite.
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12-21-2006, 04:32 PM
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I never said that they wheren't TASTY
I'd bet kitten tastes great with ketchup and a side of frys
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12-21-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VamPirate
I never said that they wheren't TASTY
I'd bet kitten tastes great with ketchup and a side of frys
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::eyes widen and glisten with tears::
Why must you say such things? We are not Chinese here!
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"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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12-21-2006, 06:20 PM
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hey an animal's an animal
the only differance between a "pet" and "food" is the way it's treated
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12-21-2006, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by VamPirate
If you say you love animals
but you still eat them
you are a hipocrite
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Veggie person here
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12-21-2006, 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VamPirate
hey an animal's an animal
the only differance between a "pet" and "food" is the way it's treated
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Yes, but I only eat certain animals  If I had a choice, then chicken would be the only meat I eat. That and turkey.
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"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you" The Bible (Matthew 7:12)
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12-22-2006, 02:28 AM
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*laughs her head off* What a crazy world we live in...
Veggie going to vegan here, so no hypocrisy. I love my cats =)
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12-22-2006, 02:34 AM
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Oh, man, the LAST thing we need is a big argument about the morals and ethics of vegitarianism vs. meat-eaters.
It's all well and good that vegitarians and vegans don't want to eat animals, but human's have incisors for a reason; to tear meat off the bone.
If you're an atheist vegan, you are officially the dumbest person ever, and you've got your own brand of hypocrisy to measure up to.
I love hamburgers. Now let me eat them in peace.
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12-22-2006, 10:09 AM
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hey if you want to eat meat that's fine by me, just kill and butcher it yourself.
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12-22-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GirlsNotMe
If you're an atheist vegan, you are officially the dumbest person ever, and you've got your own brand of hypocrisy to measure up to.
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I don't know if you refering to anyone in particular here^ but as for me, I'm a spiritual Vegan.
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