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Politics "Under democracy, one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule -and both commonly succeed, and are right."
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08-28-2007, 10:25 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Canada
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Zeitgeist
I was told to watch this movie about a possible one world government. It was such a good movie, but if you are a devout Christian the first part may offend you. This guy questions every single thing about our society.
Part 1: This part explains what the story of Jesus really meant and he is saying that Jesus wasn't a person, he is a symbol of something related to astrology.
Part 2: This part explains all the things that the government has done and also explains the usual Twin Tower conspiracy theory.
Part 3: In this part, he explains the role of the bank in our society, plans of having chips in us, and finally the idea of a one world government.
I found this very interesting so check it out. The thing is that there was this thing that happened where the president of America, the prime minister of Canada, and the president of Mexico had a meeting in which they discussed opening up the borders which they did. The meeting was so secretive that no one knows what they were discussing. Could this proove the theory of a one world government to be true?
Here's the link: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
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01-06-2008, 01:20 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: UK
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And then nobody talked about it? WTF?
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01-06-2008, 01:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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It's meant to be bullshit. The 9/11 conspiracy puts me off anyway, but the rest of it is meant to be bullshit too.
Plus, people name their children after astrological things all the time, names have to start somewhere. I'm an Atheist, and I don't think that Jesus ever existed because the original editions of the bible don't contain him, but the astrology argument is ridiculous.
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01-06-2008, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Los Angeles
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Movies like that always smell of bullshit to me. Zietgeist, Loose Change, if they were so powerful, the creators of the movies would be dead before then even got released, much less kept out on the internet. At least my view.
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01-06-2008, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I'm surprised at the claim that it was *meant* to be bullshit, but I do think you have to take it with a small mountain of salt (or how about a pillar?). Excellent production value, though. The bit at the end with the eyes and the spiel about people being powerful and beautiful made my heart leap.
I always find videos like this a little bit frustrating, since ironically they tend to obscure the very issues they are trying to bring to the light. Some of that stuff about the Federal Reserve, for example, was true. And there are aspects of 9/11 and certain events since which do not add up.
When you play it fast and loose like in Zeitgeist or Loose Change, all you do is feed ammunition to the other side. Anybody trying to ask questions becomes ridiculous by association.
Of course, if you're a conspiracy theorist, you just turn this around by saying that the films are false flag jobs.
Drake
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01-18-2008, 09:02 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: North Carolina
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Oh god Drake... tell me your not in the Rosey Odonnel steel doesn't melt conspiracy are you?
The only 9/11 conspiracy that's true is that too many bureaucrats have been sitting on their asses too long and not doing their jobs. If at least one or two were then it wouldn't have happened.
Last edited by ArtificialOne; 01-18-2008 at 09:03 PM.
Reason: spelling
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01-19-2008, 08:26 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtificialOne
Oh god Drake... tell me your not in the Rosey Odonnel steel doesn't melt conspiracy are you?
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I'm not. I just think that among all of the mostly spurious issues the conspiracy theorists raise, there are one or two genuine eyebrown raisers. Certainly nothing that adds up to 9/11 being an action of the United States government, if that's what O'Donnel's team is all about.
Drake
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01-19-2008, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
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I found the movie to be a bore and the 9/11 junk was bad, I've seen much better.
I'd suggest the late-Aaron Russo's America: Freedom to Fascism and Alex Jones' Police State series (Martial Law 9/11: Rise of the Police State; Police State 2000; Police State: The Takeover)
Watch with an open mind and skim over the 9.11/Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theories, and just watch for the facts.
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01-19-2008, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tokyo, Japan
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I think Alex Jones has to be taken with however much salt is left in the bag after Zeitgeist...
Drake
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01-19-2008, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tennessee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Drake Dun
I think Alex Jones has to be taken with however much salt is left in the bag after Zeitgeist...
Drake
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Agreed to a point. He presents the attitudes of the State well, as well as some events, then piles on the BS conspiracy junk.
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