Tattoos and piercings... - Page 16

All Shall Be Judged · 02-12-2009, 01:30 PM

It's understandable. Guns are less scary than needles to a child, because it sounds like it'll be over quicker.

Malice In Wonderland · 02-12-2009, 01:34 PM

I don't believe anyone should be allowed piercings until they know as much about them as possible and what it fully entails.

Does your daughter know what a keloid is?

Slap Your Love · 02-12-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Underwater Ophelia

Yes it does.

Na. 18g is too small to matter at all for stretching. Only placement
matters at that size.

Alarica · 02-12-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Malice In Wonderland

Does your daughter know what a keloid is?

Yes, she does. She has thick scarring on 1 ear because the jeweller who pierced her ears 2yrs ago went in through the front and pinched the ear to exit at the side of the lobe. Despite that, she was far more scared of having a hollow needle put through her ear than the risk associated with a gun.

PortraitOfSanity · 02-12-2009, 03:10 PM

An incompetent piercer can do damage, whether they use a needle or a gun. However, the risks of a gun are far greater, no matter how experienced the piercer is.

Underwater Ophelia · 02-12-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Alarica

You really do have your head stuck firmly up your own arse dont you. Do you ever pull it out and actually pay attention? Loads of kids have their ears pierced with a gun STILL. It's done all the time. Stop acting like I'm the first parent on the face of the planet to allow their childs ears to be pierced with a gun.

So you think it's ok because other people do it?
Whose head is up her ass now?

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Originally Posted by Alarica

Piercers where I live, for some strange reason, are reluctant to pierce under 16yr olds with needles, even their ear lobes. I dont know why. I assume its because of the trouble a piercer got into for piercing a 12yr olds nipples. Who knows!

So drive a few fucking miles.
Jesus Christ.

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My daughters 12. She asked for it to be done, and I simply agreed. She was given the choice right up to checking the dots to the gun being placed on her lobe. And believe me, shes confident enough to say no. It's not like shes a baby and was held down for it!

It doesn't matter if it's her choice.
If she makes the choice to have a sexual relationship with a 25 year old are you going to sit by?
No, because you're the adult, and you know that it's fucking dangerous.

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Yep, I explained to her all about blunt force trauma, and the risk of repeating the last fuck up the jewellers did, and the problems with keloids etc. She still wanted them done. My other daughters want theirs done but the rule is they have to be 10, so I have a few years left to convince them to have theirs done with a needle!

YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID NO.
Fuck blunt force trauma--ever hear of AIDS? How about hepatitis?

PortraitOfSanity · 02-12-2009, 04:22 PM

Yea, I'm gonna agree with all that.

nis~sijai · 02-13-2009, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarica

Yes, she does. She has thick scarring on 1 ear because the jeweller who pierced her ears 2yrs ago went in through the front and pinched the ear to exit at the side of the lobe. Despite that, she was far more scared of having a hollow needle put through her ear than the risk associated with a gun.

Let me get this straight, they fucked up with the gun before - scarring your daughter, and you still let them use it again?

Alarica · 02-13-2009, 03:40 AM

Yep. Thats right. 1st time was done in a jewellers. This time it was a piercer. Offered the choice, she opted for the gun. We have discussed it for the last year, and then again for a good half hour in the piercers, with him, and other people there with several pieces of shrapnel in their faces. She was adamant she was not having anyone near her with a needle. And as I told her, it was her choice both times, so if they reject its her look out, and she'll have no choice but to have a needle next time. And I'll say it again, for the band waggon jumpers, I am not the first parent whos child has had a piercing done with a gun. My daughter is 12 years old. She is not a baby who needed to be held down. Deal with it.

Beneath the Shadows · 02-13-2009, 04:07 AM

If they made a gun that pushed through a needle instead of the back of a stud, that would be great. Some areas (like ear cartilage) are difficult to do manually, so the gun is a convenience. But the stud back doesn't remove a core sample, it pushes everything to the sides. So the needle is better in the long run. Needle guns FTW.

Underwater Ophelia · 02-13-2009, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarica

Yep. Thats right. 1st time was done in a jewellers. This time it was a piercer. Offered the choice, she opted for the gun. We have discussed it for the last year, and then again for a good half hour in the piercers, with him, and other people there with several pieces of shrapnel in their faces. She was adamant she was not having anyone near her with a needle. And as I told her, it was her choice both times, so if they reject its her look out, and she'll have no choice but to have a needle next time. And I'll say it again, for the band waggon jumpers, I am not the first parent whos child has had a piercing done with a gun. My daughter is 12 years old. She is not a baby who needed to be held down. Deal with it.

You're irresponsible.
A 12 year old isn't in a position to make that kind of choice for herself, especially when IT'S NOT JUST SCARRING YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
IT'S BLOODBORNE DISEASES.

Do you even know what AIDS is?

Necrophagist · 02-13-2009, 03:31 PM

[quote=Alarica]Yep. Thats right. 1st time was done in a jewellers. This time it was a piercer. Offered the choice, she opted for the gun. We have discussed it for the last year, and then again for a good half hour in the piercers, with him, and other people there with several pieces of shrapnel in their faces. She was adamant she was not having anyone near her with a needle.

Man I wish you were my mother.

crucifix · 02-16-2009, 05:37 AM

I am getting a new tattoo today. It is going to be "from rejection comes peace" on my left forearm. It is a very condensed version of a conversation I had with a friend awhile when I was dealing with some serious issues that almost killed me. He basically told me that with any obsession and compulsion or addiction we have to get to a point that we let go of what people are telling us and we have to reject the unrealistic ideals of the world and of ourselves that we were raised with start over again if we ever want to pull our selves out of any situation that has swallowed us whole. I don't know why, but it stuck with me, even though it was a long time ago.

Malice In Wonderland · 02-16-2009, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarica

Yes, she does. She has thick scarring on 1 ear because the jeweller who pierced her ears 2yrs ago went in through the front and pinched the ear to exit at the side of the lobe. Despite that, she was far more scared of having a hollow needle put through her ear than the risk associated with a gun.

Then you're stupid.
If she wants her fucking ears pierced then it's down to you to make sure she's safe.
If my mum had my ears pierced with a gun I'd call social services due to neglect.

crucifix · 03-05-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Alarica

Yes, she does. She has thick scarring on 1 ear because the jeweller who pierced her ears 2yrs ago went in through the front and pinched the ear to exit at the side of the lobe. Despite that, she was far more scared of having a hollow needle put through her ear than the risk associated with a gun.

ehhh, just the thought of using a gun makes me shiver. I got mine done with a gun and it just got redder and redder and more and more swollen until I had to take it out. I got my lip done with a needle and it healed in like a week. So, yeah, guns make me nervous when it comes to peircings. had to take my lip ring out to look more professional for work, though. Was my own choice since I felt like people looked at me like I was a 12 year old most of the time anyway and didn't want to make it worse.

Cicero · 03-05-2009, 06:55 PM

Funny thing about all the piercings I've had is that the four I had done professionally with a needle back in August are still not healed (yes, I cleaned them every day with salt water, and no, I didn't go dragging them through mud or faeces or dead animal muck. I followed the piercers aftercare instructions perfectly, actually, and live a pretty healthy lifestyle too), and the ones done with a gun back when I was about seven healed within weeks.

To further add to these rather unexpected results, a friend's self-pierced ear (using a satety pin) from about two weeks ago is now healing in perfect condition.

Underwater Ophelia · 03-05-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

Funny thing about all the piercings I've had is that the four I had done professionally with a needle back in August are still not healed (yes, I cleaned them every day with salt water, and no, I didn't go dragging them through mud or faeces or dead animal muck. I followed the piercers aftercare instructions perfectly, actually, and live a pretty healthy lifestyle too), and the ones done with a gun back when I was about seven healed within weeks.

To further add to these rather unexpected results, a friend's self-pierced ear (using a satety pin) from about two weeks ago is now healing in perfect condition.

Anecdotes are worthless, you should know that.

Cicero · 03-05-2009, 07:13 PM

Right, because mentioning how my experience is strangely contrary to most other's is TOTALLY trying to start an argument about how needles are crap and everyone should rush out and get pierced with guns.

Just sharing a story, Ophelia.

Underwater Ophelia · 03-05-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Cicero

Right, because mentioning how my experience is strangely contrary to most other's is TOTALLY trying to start an argument about how needles are crap and everyone should rush out and get pierced with guns.

Just sharing a story, Ophelia.

I didn't say you were trying to start an argument, dude.

Cicero · 03-05-2009, 08:18 PM

You said anecdotes are useless, which they are only when used as 'evidence' in a debate situation.

In this situation I was merely sharing an anecdote because it seemed interesting and relevant. I wouldn't call that useless.

Pineapple_Juice · 03-08-2009, 08:53 PM

When I've found a good artist, I'm going to have him draw flowers all over me. With needles.

Xombie · 03-09-2009, 03:30 PM

I just gauged my ears to 3/4. I'm pleased.

Slap Your Love · 03-09-2009, 03:35 PM

Son of a bitch. You're beating me. I thought I had the
biggest lobes here. I'm at 11/16" so I'm right below you.

You stretch your lobes btw. Gauge is just measurement.

Xombie · 03-09-2009, 03:47 PM

I skipped 11/16. I found it too difficult to acquire silicon 11/16 tunnels, and my lobes were sort of naturally stretching beyond 5/8 anyway, so I just... did it.

And why does it matter who has the biggest lobes?

Slap Your Love · 03-09-2009, 03:50 PM

Oh. I don't use silicon. Organics are best for your lobes.
Mine do that too.

It doesn't. It's just nice to be one of a kind amongst many.