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08-06-2009, 02:01 PM
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The Bible: Not conservative enough!
http://www.conservapedia.com/Bible_R...lation_Project
You will feel an interesting combination of entertainment and creepiness; like watching a David Lynch movie but less awesome.
My favorite parts are their emphasis on the inclusion of the word socialism, without knowing where or why to place it; changing false idols to media, their admission that not killing is a leftist absurdity, and their reluctance to keep the word liberal in the bible.
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08-06-2009, 02:16 PM
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Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".
EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+
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08-06-2009, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Godslayer Jillian
My favorite parts are their emphasis on the inclusion of the word socialism, without knowing where or why to place it;
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Since they seem pretty reluctant to keep 'thou shalt not kill' in there, I figure they may as well drop it in favor of 'thou shalt not socialism'.
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08-06-2009, 02:25 PM
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Argh. You know, there's twisting the Bible around to suit your argument, there's nitpicking certain obscure quotes to suit your argument, and then there's changing the Bible so it says what you want it to say.
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08-06-2009, 03:55 PM
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Psh, freaking bible thumpers, nothing is ever conservative enough for them.
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08-06-2009, 08:15 PM
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Interesting that they want to change rich to idle miser, so that industrious rich are ok. Like some of the pastors today that have private jet aircraft and several mansions and fat bank accounts, and that they also want to change "shall not kill" to "shall not unjustifiably kill".
I don't think I like where this is going. Thanks for the link Jillian. It will take me a little while to digest this information, this translation effort is news to me.
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08-06-2009, 09:41 PM
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Everyone construes various passages from the bible and uses them to justify their own means.
Like Jesus being in union with God = Trinity when further along in the scriptural chapter it says that Jesus will also be in union with his disciples.
Didn't the Catholic church recently change the seven deadly sins?
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08-06-2009, 09:51 PM
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08-07-2009, 05:43 AM
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Technecly the original deadly sins cover every sin due to how general they are, I think they merely did it because people fail to see what they are doing as part of those original 7 deadly sins. For example ruining the enviroment can fall under the sins of pride, sloth, and in the case of big corperations greed as well, but not everyone sees that.
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"Never overestimate the intellect of someone so foolish that they would exploit and perpetuate stupidity in the people around them, for they create their own damnation as they tear out and sell the pillars that support society as a whole, bringing it crashing down upon them."-me
“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”- Einstein
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08-26-2009, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renatus
Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".
EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+ |
The Phelps family / Westboro Baptist Church. Mad as f.....ornication, they are!!!
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08-26-2009, 02:49 PM
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Why should the Bible be considered conservative at all? Once upon a time, it was the most liberal piece of literature on the face of the planet.
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08-26-2009, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Anthony Quested
The Phelps family / Westboro Baptist Church. Mad as f.....ornication, they are!!!
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The punk band my ex-GF use to front, had a song called Burn Westboro..
...loved that song..
Really, this is creepy, though. The Bible, too liberal? Well, I agree, it's radical and liberal... But that's what it's suppose to be.
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08-26-2009, 04:17 PM
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If this further pushes the extreme, socially conservative, fundamentalist Christians out to the fringe (as I suspect it will), so much the better. Many moderate denominations already try to distance themselves from these kind of people. The less they are perceived as part of a large and socially accepted religion, the fewer people will credit anything they say. Plus, they get to feel like religious martyrs in the bargain, so everybody's happy!
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08-27-2009, 07:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Renatus
Reminds me of this one story not too long ago I heard about this extremist sect who protested at the funerals of soldiers. They made a video where they sang about how "god hates everyone".
EDIT: FOUND IT!
http://www.phillyd.tv/?s=protest+soldier+ |
The Westboro church just pisses me off. This song is really just the icing on the cake.
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08-27-2009, 09:45 PM
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I do think the Bible ought to be retranslated from the source. The King James version is getting a lot of shit wrong.
i.e. in Exodus when it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" The original word in the place of "witch" meant "One who kills or harms another with poison." The translation into Latin happened to be a word that also meant "witch".
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08-28-2009, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Anima_Severem
I do think the Bible ought to be retranslated from the source. The King James version is getting a lot of shit wrong.
i.e. in Exodus when it says "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" The original word in the place of "witch" meant "One who kills or harms another with poison." The translation into Latin happened to be a word that also meant "witch".
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King James did make the translators change things. But most translations use the greek text as the base.
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08-28-2009, 06:56 AM
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Wow. Those folks are incredibly creepy. x_x;;;; ["Conservapedia"? Really?]
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08-28-2009, 11:24 PM
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Lol. "God Hates the World." It started with just gays, but then it had to move to gay "enablers", and then fence sitters, finally to all of America... oh, and Sweden. And now it's the whole world. The trend is clear, but where can they really go from here?
It makes me sad to think that the good people at Westboro Baptist might be in danger of running out of new ways to entertain us.
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08-28-2009, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Beneath the Shadows
Why should the Bible be considered conservative at all? Once upon a time, it was the most liberal piece of literature on the face of the planet.
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Once upon a time, the astrolabe was the pinnacle of navigation technology.
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08-30-2009, 11:56 AM
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The Bible went from being liberal to being (considered) conservative. Astrolabes are still astrolabes.
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08-30-2009, 12:20 PM
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Astrolabes went from being indispensable to being obsolete. The Bible is still the Bible.
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08-30-2009, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Drake Dun
The trend is clear, but where can they really go from here?
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God hates Martians.
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08-30-2009, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminus
God hates Martians.
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Haha, nice : )
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08-30-2009, 09:26 PM
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"shivers in basket" Religious zealots scare me.
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08-31-2009, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Terminus
God hates Martians.
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Score, lol. Really though, they can't be too many iterations away from "God Hates Everything." Presumably they'll stop short of "God hates God".
In re the Bible being a "liberal" book, I wish I could agree. Unfortunately, I have made the mistake of actually reading it, and sadly lack the capacity for jawdropping feats of mindbending that allows moderate Christians to read the King James English version of "kill the dirty fags" and take away from it "don't judge".
Although in fairness, the Bible actually *does* say not to judge, in its better moods. And includes some genuinely radical, even beautiful thinking. It's not like it was all written by one guy, after all.
The problem is that by and large, Christians are still humping this fantasy that the Bible is the One Monolithic Inerrant Truth that Came from the Magic Man. So it's near impossible to have an honest conversation about its content. They can't simply say about something in the Bible, "This part is crap. We're throwing it out."
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