Anne Rice Novels

ExistentialDisorder · 10-08-2005, 09:33 PM

I don't mean to start what may seem to be a clich'e thread around here but I wanted to ask if anybody remembered the details behind how Rice's vampires came into existence. I no longer own my copies of the original vampire trilogy books, having lost or loaned them out over the years. I remember there seemed to be two stories behind it; one true, the other a myth based on the truth. And that there was something about some greek or egyptian gods. It's been so many years since I read them now that I can't be sure. Also, were the origins of the witches ever revealed? I never read the Mayfair series because the first book bored me.

tiffany_the_writer · 10-08-2005, 09:44 PM

I THINK she talks about the origins of the vampires in "The Vampire Lestat" but I don't know if its the true story or not. It was something about demons entering an Egyptian king and queen. But I could be wrong.

LeStAT · 10-08-2005, 10:42 PM

Tifany is right , she wrote the the eygiption king and queen were possed by demons and there souls tainted , the went on to drink and drink and drink till there the kings thirst for blood subsided and the vamire queen was still so hungrey for blood she took the kings distaste for it and drank his blood before then she and the king werre turned to living stone and ere protected for hundreds of years by the ancient vampire marias

ExistentialDisorder · 10-09-2005, 06:36 PM

I can barely make out what you wrote.

I remember the part about how akasha became a vampire, I'm trying to find out about the legend behind it. It dealt with a god of either greek or egyptian mythology. I guess I'll just have to go find copies of the books and browse through them again.

LeStAT · 10-09-2005, 10:19 PM

yeah that was a shocker i wasnt in a sober state of mind if you really want to know i will dig the book out and copy the relevent chapters if you want mate !

ThwanCondu · 10-23-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LeStAT

Tifany is right , she wrote the the eygiption king and queen were possed by demons and there souls tainted , the went on to drink and drink and drink till there the kings thirst for blood subsided and the vamire queen was still so hungrey for blood she took the kings distaste for it and drank his blood before then she and the king werre turned to living stone and ere protected for hundreds of years by the ancient vampire marias

The Egyptian Pharoah Enkil and his wife Akasha were posessed by demons whilst attempting a sort of exorcism on their palace. The demons took posession of them through their blood when they were murdered by some rebels in the room that was in particular being haunted. Maybe you should just flip to that part in The Vampire Lestat. I'm sure Rice can tell it better...uh...us.

ThwanCondu · 10-24-2005, 04:29 PM

WHAT?! But...but...it's about Jesus having gay necrophilic sex, right? Right?!

winged_dreams · 10-24-2005, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ThwanCondu

WHAT?! But...but...it's about Jesus having gay necrophilic sex, right? Right?!

Haha. ^^ This amuses me.

AilicesEpitaph · 11-01-2005, 12:55 AM

Yes, that Jesus thing upsets me as well. Besides the obvious, what could've possessed her to stray from the Vampires and go to the Lord? -_-

ExistentialDisorder · 11-01-2005, 08:39 AM

well if you think about it, she started going religious with her writing as far back as memnoch. And technically, religion has been a constant, underlying thread through the vampire chronicles from the beginning. armand didn't believe in god or the devil, or at least he'd never experienced anything to convince him that either one existed. which is why he went into the sun when he saw veronica's veil. I never really understood how he was saved from all of that. but anyway. somewhere along the lines rice rediscovered her catholic upbringing and returned to it. I think since her husband's death she's gone extremely religious. that sort of thing tends to inspire more religous thoughts in a lot of people, especially those that are already prone to it.

i remember how akasha and enkil were turned. what i was trying to find was the mythology behind the nature of vampires, that rice used as a sort of origin. i guess i didn't word it correctly in the beginning.

~E.D.

Infiniitivi · 12-26-2005, 07:16 PM

Did anyone read any of the Mayfair witches? I felt as if it was as good as, if not better than the vampire chronicals.

I just finished servent of the bones and now I kinda feel sorry for Azriel. He has to go on living forever because his father sold him out. Poor specter..

bitter_beauty · 01-04-2006, 05:08 AM

im a big fan of anne rice and have nearly all of her books but quite distraught at what shes now writing but she has always been a catholic
remember memnoch the devil?
the most blasphemous thing i thought a catholic could say; lestat travelled with Satan, she re wrote the story of beginning and lestat drank the blood of christ from his neck!!!

ExistentialDisorder · 01-04-2006, 03:08 PM

Well, if she actually takes her time with them and thinks things through, I think her new jesus books might actually make for an interesting read.

I read, somewhere, that there's a scene in the book in which jesus, as a boy, kills a bully, then realising what he's done, brings the kid back to life. I don't know of any scriptures that speak of jesus having powers like that as a child. so there is definately a supernatural thread in the book.

NecromanticSunshine · 01-09-2006, 08:53 PM

I read above that Tiffany_the_writer thought the story of Enkil and Akasha was in the Vampire Lestat. I just thought I'd say it's not. It's in Queen of the Damned. I didn't even have to check because I still haven't finished the Vampire Lestat because he bores me to tears >.< The Queen of the Damned was way more interesting.

I started reading The Tale of the Body Theif about A year ago after finishing Queen of the Damned and reading only a quarter of The Vampire Lestat, but realized I needed to know the information in The Vampire Lestat before I could understand the Tale of the Body Theif. It stinks. I want to read the rest so bad because I know it will be interesting...I just don't really like Lestat.

NecromanticSunshine · 01-09-2006, 10:48 PM

I'm not spreading misinformation because I did read the Queen of the Damned because the Vampire Lestat bored me. Sorry if I skipped over the second half and then went back. Actually, no I'm not. If you don't like my methods you can just go suck a f**k.

This is the second post you've bashed me for something and I understand it's common for newbies to get bashed. But the first time was for my opinion on a book and this time it was because you assumed that I had no idea what I was talking about. I think you need to shut your mouth and get all the facts before you judge.

NecromanticSunshine · 01-10-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Xnguela

How does one suck a fuck? That's a really cool mental image.

Ah yes, a line borrowed from a great movie called Donnie Darko.

WolfMoon · 01-10-2006, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NecromanticSunshine

I'm not spreading misinformation because I did read the Queen of the Damned because the Vampire Lestat bored me. Sorry if I skipped over the second half and then went back. Actually, no I'm not. If you don't like my methods you can just go suck a f**k.

This is the second post you've bashed me for something and I understand it's common for newbies to get bashed. But the first time was for my opinion on a book and this time it was because you assumed that I had no idea what I was talking about. I think you need to shut your mouth and get all the facts before you judge.

If you think the series is so damned boring then why the fuck are you bothering to read any of it? You can't possibly understand what's going on from one book to the next if you skip over books. I think skipping over shit is how they produced such a mis-informed movie as 'QOTD'.

Maybe you should stick to books aimed at people your age, like Goosebumps.

ExistentialDisorder · 01-10-2006, 03:52 PM

NecromanticSunshine - You got bashed because you're claiming something didn't happen in a book you didn't read. How the fuck does somebody do that??

If Lestat bores you so much, why the hell are you reading any of the chronicles anyway, considering most of them are about lestat?

Back to the reason you got bashed:

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the story of Enkil and Akasha was in the Vampire Lestat. I just thought I'd say it's not

And I just thought I'd say you're wrong. The story of Enkil and Akasha is in the vampire Lestat. Just not the entire story. That's where the myth starts. It's sort of like, in TVL, you learn the myth, and then in QOTD you learn the truth. Not to mention, its how Akasha got her boner for Lestat, from the very first time he played his violin for her.

Also, by skipping over the Vampire Lestat, you're missing out on how Lestat created Gabrielle, and Nikki, how he met Marius, Armand, Akasha, his band, how he became the owner of the Theatre de Vampir, all the secrets he tried keeping from Louis and Claudia - because the bulk of TVL actually takes place prior to his creating Louis, how he's not so much of an evil bastard as Louis' impression of him was at first, (course I guess that is a matter of opinion), and a shitload of other info that's vital to the entire trilogy.

Methinks your method of reading is not sound, and only seems to provide motive for your own confusion. If you stop reading the end of a story before reading the rest of it, and stop picking and choosing parts of a story to read, then maybe you'll be a little less confused, and in the future, be able to provide more acurate information.

Not bashing you, just trying to lend some helpful advice.

ExistentialDisorder · 01-10-2006, 03:54 PM

Correction: Most of the first five books are about Lestat. Up until The Vampire Armand - which is truncated but available in The Vampire Lestat.

NecromanticSunshine · 01-10-2006, 10:15 PM

Okay the saying that the story wasn't in TVL was my bad, i will admit that. I actually was skimming through one of my copies and realized I was actually past that I just haven't continued. And it's not so much that stories about Lestat bore me but more that Lestat himself annoys the shit out of me.

I think the reason TVL bores me is that it's written in how he himself would write the book. And quite honestly I think he's a narcisstic asshole. The QotD at least was not written in his view. Hopefully the others won't be either. I think that's the main thing that bugs me. I loved the parts with Armand and Marius, and Nicholas and Gabrielle...but anything with just him talking about himself...just...ugh.

I read the Queen of the Damned because it seemed way more interesting and I thought It may help me to finish TVL. And just to clear up - with the Tale of the Body Theif I only read the first few pages. Then went back to TVL. I know it seems confusing, but my mind is a little back and forth so it makes sense in my head.

ExistentialDisorder · 01-10-2006, 10:32 PM

Ok. you're forgiven. Kind of...

I will agree, partially, that the beginning of TVL was rather dull getting started, with his ramblings about the wolves and his brothers and father, and all of that. But those details are keys to his future, especially the wolves, and help to shape the personality of the vampire that he becomes.

The first 3 books are a trilogy. The others are pretty much complete stories on their own. I wasn't much impressed with bodytheif. But I will tell you that you might as well get used to Lestat's narrating because Bodytheif and Memnoch the Devil are all about Lestat. Then there's The Vampire Armand, Pandora, Merrick, Blood and Gold, Blackwood Farm and Blood Canticle. (Did I miss any?) Blackwood and Canticle are sort of a part 1 and 2 thing but not really. I haven't really read much of Canticle because the beginning is just idiotic, the way he's ranting on, trying to sound like some homie from the block... what the fuck rice was smoking on that one i have no idea... but anyway...

And I still can't remember what the hell the greek mythology consisted of. I'm talking about the parts where Lestat, or somebody, is telling the story of the god of the underworld that was cut into pieces and sent down the river styx. I am most certain its in TVL, but since I don't currently have a copy of that one I can't be sure.

ExistentialDisorder · 01-10-2006, 10:37 PM

I always thought it'd be cool to see the chronicles set to animation. At least the first 3 books. My vision of it would be animation done the way the movie Final Fantasy was done. I'm not sure of the name given to that style of animation. I wonder if Rice has ever been asked her opinion on doing something like this tho. Back in high school some friends of mine and i started doing illustrations with the goal of turning them all into an animation. one of my friends had free reign of the art department after hours at his school and had access to machines that would have made the process easier. but its been way too long for me to remember the details now.

WolfMoon · 01-11-2006, 10:34 AM

I quite enjoyed all of the books I read. The last one was Pandora, for me unfortunately. I loved that in Tale of the Body Thief, Lestat gets a taste of what it's like to be human again. I love Lestat, his arrogance and stupidity remind me of myself, at times.

Kali Maxwell · 01-12-2006, 06:17 AM

I, personally, was quite taken with Lestat. People that are that... introspective are interesting to me. I enjoyed his "voice." I didn't mind him talking about himself at all.

syntinen · 01-12-2006, 04:39 PM

I really didn't read any of the books, I went out and got the books on tape. But I can say that "the queen of the damned" is the one with the myth of Enkil and Akasha.

I know this because I'm hearing it this very moment.